Stocksbridge tree set for the chop

A Stocksbridge Tree Jan 23rd 2014



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16 Responses to Stocksbridge tree set for the chop

  1. Technotronic says:

    If anybody has any complaints regarding tree work done by Amey on behalf of the council, and wants answers from the people directly responsible, you need to contact Amey via the council’s website: .

    You will be prompted to e-mail or telephone customer services on: (0114) 2734567.

    This is the best way to get answers. Councillors are unfamiliar with the details and at best will just fob you off with general schpeel. They are not knowledgeable or familiar with arboricultural matters. To the best of my knowledge, Sheffield council has not actually formally adopted a specific Tree Strategy. One has been in development for a few years now!

    If you are not happy with the answers you get, then contact your councillor. 😉

    If anybody would like to get a better idea about Amey’s tree work, I recommend you visit the Stocksbridge Community Forum and type in a key word in to the search box (such as “tree” or “Amey”).


    You may find the following document of interest:

    The National Tree Safety Group (2011a) Common Sense Risk Management of Trees: Guidance on trees and public safety in the UK for owners, managers and advisers, Edinburgh: Forestry Commission (Forestry Commission stock code: FCM 024).


    the term “defect” can be misleading, as the significance of structural deformities in
    trees (variations from a perceived norm) can be extremely variable. indeed,
    deformities can be a response to internal hollowing or decay, compensating for loss of wood strength and providing mechanical advantage, allowing the tree to adapt to wind and gravitational forces. With inadequate understanding, so-called defects may be erroneously confused with hazards and, furthermore, hazards with risk – so unless the risk of harm arising from a hazard is properly taken account of, management can be seriously misinformed, potentially leading to costly and unnecessary intervention.
    NTSG definition: “a defect in the context of the growing environment of a tree is a structural, health or environmental condition that could predispose a tree to failure”.

    (The National Tree Safety Group, 2011, p. 44)

  2. Technotronic says:

    The following enquiry response has been issued by Amey:

    “The tree to which you refer was found to be infected with Laetiporus sulphurous (LS). Given the tree’s location, within the carriageway, and, therefore, contrary to section 96 of the Highways Act 1980 and also the nature of decay associated with LS, a decision to fell the tree was made.

    However, due to public reaction, and the prominent nature of the tree and its associated amenity value, further investigation has been arranged i.e. Picus tomography. The results of which will enable our Arboriculture Asset Management team to evaluate more accurately the extent of decay and, possibly, offer an alternative management option.”

    Make of that what you will.

    You may find the following document to be of interest:

    Read, H., 2000. Veteran Trees: A guide to good management (IN13). Peterborough: English Nature.


    “Laetiporus sulphureus (Figure 15) break down only the dead wood. This decays the centre of the tree but leaves the outer, living layers intact. While this may not be desirable from the point of view of a commercial forester, the tree is not harmed and may actually benefit. Decay and hollowing are part of a nutrient recycling process.The tree can make use of the products of wood decay within the trunk by producing aerial roots from its above ground parts, which grow into the rotting stem. A hollow tube may respond differently from a solid trunk in high winds and not necessarily more likely to snap provided its walls are not so thin that buckling occurs”.

    (Read, 2000, p. 33)

    • Technotronic says:

      Excerpts from “BS 3998:2010 Tree work. Recommendations”…

      “Notes and commentaries are provided throughout the text of this
      standard. Notes give references and additional information that
      are important but do not form part of the recommendations.”

      From Annex C of the standard:

      C.4.2 “Veteranization”

      “NOTE 2 Some attempts have been made to introduce desired species of
      decay fungi (e.g. Laetiporus sulphureus) into veteranization wounds. The
      decay produced by such fungi provides good habitats and tends not to
      shorten the life of the tree by extending into functional sapwood.”

      From section 3 of the standard: “Terms and definitions”

      3.29 “Veteranization”

      “controlled infliction of damage on a tree to achieve a specific habitat

      NOTE This is undertaken to promote or emulate the development of
      some of the features of a veteran tree, especially the wildlife habitats and
      shelters that are provided by decaying wood and cavities (see Veteran
      trees: a guide to good management [1*]). When undertaken, it is usually
      on young or early-mature trees.”

      *This publication referenced here is Read, 2000, as quoted in my previous posting (above).

      • Technotronic says:

        Just to make it clear to readers, the standard does not condone widespread veteranization practice at every opportunity. A commentary at C.4.2 of the standard states that the purpose of veteranization is “…to encourage the development of decay
        and other features characteristic of veteran trees when a major age gap
        in the tree population would otherwise lead to a break in the continuity
        of the wildlife habitats and shelter provided by such trees, especially in
        decaying wood and cavities.

        As I understand it, the management plan for Wadsley and Loxley Common prescribes the practice of veteranisation.

  3. Technotronic says:

    I should, perhaps, mention that when an oak gets as old as the Melbourne Road veteran in Stocksbridge the cross-sectional area of its trunk largely consists of “heartwood” (i.e. it largely consists of dead wood). There may only be a few millimetres or a couple of centimetres of sound, living wood (“sapwood”), surrounding the heartwood. Hence the necessity of a detailed inspection by a competent arboriculturist. This should examine the extent of decay and effect of decay on structural integrity, thus permitting both appropriate evaluation of potential hazard and informed risk assessment.

  4. Technotronic says:

    The local paper reported that the tree was felled this Monday (1st April). The stump has been ground out and nothing more remains. Does anyone have a link to the Picus tomograms that Amey commissioned, or any photographs of the logs or stump? It would be interesting to know the extent of the cavity that was present within the tree.

    Here’s a link to the newspaper article:

  5. Technotronic says:

    With regard to the report from the detailed inspection (performed on 27th January 2014) of the Melbourne Road veteran oak.

    Here are some excerpts from the report:

    “The results of the Tomography indicate that the extent of decay did not breach t/R ratio of 30/70%, the point at which fully-crowned trees become dangerous…”

    “…the following management options were considered:

    A. Removal and replacement if highway safety obligations prevent safe retention in the carriageway.

    B. “Heavy” reduction of the existing crown volume (approx.. 30%) and instigation of a long term heritage tree management strategy with annual inspections. The installation of line markings and/or bollards to highlight tree encroachment and guide traffic.

    Following much determination, option A was considered most appropriate”.

    The recommendation for annual inspection is perhaps a little excessive, given that the tree was apparently healthy; oak is well known to be particularly successful in hindering the spread of microbial infection within its parts; oak is also well known to be successful in compensating for loss of cross-sectional area, through the production of reaction wood (termed “adaptive growth” in the British Standards), which effectively maintains structural integrity (of stem/branch or root), enabling plant parts to have a safety factor greater than that of most mammal bones (Mattheck et al., 1993).

    It would appear that the detailed inspection was only commissioned to create the impression that those responsible (both Amey and the Council) were attempting to do things the right way, after initially taking a decision to remove the tree without a necessary and appropriate hazard assessment and subsequent informed risk assessment. To my mind, what has happened has been an appalling and unacceptable waste of taxpayer’s money. It is a shame that those concerned cannot be issued with some form of proportionate financial penalty.

    Hopefully, lessons will have been learnt from the appalling way in which the whole process was handled. It is unfortunate that the local community will have to suffer the consequences of a decision making process in which they had no part. Such old veteran trees, particularly oak, are extremely rare along our city streets.

    The final decision on the future of the Melbourne Road veteran oak should have been taken by an arboriculturist (as defined within British Standard 3998).

    A copy of the tree report has been sent to Cllr A.Brelsford.


    Mattheck, C., Bethge, K. & Schafer, J (1993) Safety Factors In Trees. Journal of Theoretical Biology, 165, p.185-89.

  6. Technotronic says:


    We don’t live in a perfect world, and tree managers will always worry about trees with cavities, such as the Melbourne Rd veteran oak. Unfortunately, cavities are likely to be regarded as serious hazards regardless of whether or not they have been risk assessed. For anyone interested in methods used to assess trees with cavities, see the following document (a hand-out from the Kansas Arborists Association Conference):

    Luley, C., 2006. Measuring Strength Loss from Decay.

    In addition, those interested may wish to see the following document too:

    Bond, J., 2006. Foundations of Tree Risk Analysis: Use of the t/R ratio to Evaluate Trunk Failure Potential.,5

  7. Technotronic says:

    For a little background on the assessment of trees, see the following:

    Van Wassenaer, P. & Richardson, M., 2009. A review of tree risk assessment using minimally invasive technologies and two case studies. Arboricultural Journal, Volume 32, pp. 275-292.

    Freely available online:
    or at…

  8. Technotronic says:

    You may be interested to know that the latest guidance on veteran tree management (RRP £30) is now available in PDF format as a free download at the “VETree” (an acronym for ‘Vocational Education and Training on Veteran Trees’) website (once there, you’ll find it listed under “Training products”):

    Publication details:
    Title: Ancient and other veteran trees: further guidance on management
    ISBN: 9780904853094
    Year: 2013
    Editor: David Lonsdale

    The publication has been available for download since December, I believe; it updates the guidance and recommendations of the aforementioned publication by Read (2000) and it is referenced a number of times within British Standard 3998 (2010) – Tree work – Recommendations: the standard to which every tree worker should adhere.

    VETree was a European project set up by 5 partner organisations that ran from November 2012 to October 2014, with the aim of setting up a European wide quality training programme in veteran tree management.

  9. Technotronic says:

    “…there has also been considerable loss of veteran tree habitat due to ill-informed safety management. The conservation and continuity of old trees in the landscape depends on better informed management, which takes into account their intrinsic values as well as the legal implications of ownership.”

    (Read, 2000, p. 2)

  10. Technotronic says:


    The letter below – “The Battle For Sustainable Stewardship of Sheffield’s Street Trees” – arrived in my inbox on 2nd August 2017. The author sent it to the SHEFFIELD TELEGRAPH the same day. The author has informed that it was sent to THE STAR the next day and that a similar version was sent to the YORKSHIRE POST on 1st August 2017. Despite further media interest, with the SECRETARY OF STATE FOR ENVIRONMENT, FOOD AND RURAL AFFAIRS – Michael Gove – stepping up to criticise Sheffield City Council* the NEWSPAPERS HAVE CHOSEN NOT TO PUBLISH THE LETTER. Notation and references have been added to support the content.

    * To quote from Gove’s letter, dated 9th August 2017:


    Links to national media coverage can be accessed here:



    Dear Editor,

    In my opinion, significant omissions from recent media coverage of the legal dispute between Sheffield City Council and Sheffield Tree Action Groups have led to misleading reports. Various news sources reported that dead, dying, diseased and dangerous street trees are being felled in Sheffield [1&5]. However, that accounts for just four of the “6Ds” criteria that SCC & Amey Hallam Highways Ltd use to justify felling street trees [2]. The other two “Ds” – DAMAGING and DISCRIMINATORY – were NOT mentioned, yet they are the criteria most used by SCC and Amey to justify felling [7&9], and the most controversial [4].

    Amey is the service provider for the £2.2bn “Streets Ahead” highway maintenance project. Prior to this 25yr contract, in 2007, Elliott Consultancy Ltd surveyed Sheffield’s entire street tree population. The consultant reported that 73.8% of Sheffield’s street trees were mature (25,877 trees) [3]. Most are associated with damage to footways and kerbs. The Deputy Leader of SCC has twice confirmed that the contract permits the felling of 67.7% of mature street trees [4]. On 28th July 2017, BBC Look North informed that around 5,400 have been felled [5].

    On 23rd July, 2015, Steve Robinson (SCC Head of Highway Maintenance) informed:

    “So, our underinvestment and underfunding left us with a number of dead, dying and dangerous trees. …there were 1,200 trees that were within that category. So, Amey identified those trees and addressed those first. […] Our next priority is to improve the condition of our roads and pavements. So, in other words, deal with the DAMAGING trees… So, we’re now looking to deal with DISCRIMINATORY trees.[6] …IF AN ENGINEERING SOLUTION CAN BE APPLIED, THEN IT WILL BE APPLIED. …a tree is removed as a LAST resort.””[4&7]

    Since 2015, the Information commissioner [8] and John Mothersole (SCC Chief Executive) [9] have confirmed that no alternative highway engineering specifications have been commissioned or drafted for consideration for use as an alternative to felling. Instead, SCC & Amey have a list of 25 ideas [8 & 9].

    Yours Sincerely,

    D.Long (BSc Hons Arb)


    • Technotronic says:


      Actually, Sheffield Telegraph did publish the above letter (“THE BATTLE FOR SUSTAINABLE STEWARDSHIP OF SHEFFIELD’S STREET TREES”), on 16th August 2017, on page 58, under the title: “Battle for sustainable stewardship of trees” (see the pictures area, above). You can view a photograph here:

      There was also another tree letter on the same page, about the WW1 memorial trees on Western Road. Letters are usually near the front of the paper, on page 8 (there was a long letter there about trees and street lighting, by David Garlovsky – ecologist and STAG campaigner). Oddly, but thankfully, the editor appears to have inserted the letters on page 58 in addition to those near the front of the paper. 

  11. Technotronic says:


    (to force SUSTAINABLE stewardship of valuable community assets – trees)


    In a letter dated 9th August 2017, addressed to the Leader of Sheffield City Council (Cllr Julie Dore: Labour), the SECRETARY OF STATE commented:



    The Sheffield City Council Chief Executive – John Mothersole – was copied in on the letter.


    The Sheffield City Council Cabinet Member for Environment and Streetscene – the incompetent, deceitful Cllr Bryan Lodge (Labour) – responded with the usual spin, misrepresentation and misinformation that the Save Our Roadside Trees (SORT) Sheffield Tree Action Group (Sheffield’s first STAG group) has successfully debunked*. You can view the complete letter here:


    * See the SORT letter dated 29th January, 2016 [1] formed part of the Nether Edge petition hand-out that was DISTRIBUTED TO EVERY COUNCILLOR in the city by SCC’s John Turner (Democratic Services Legal and Governance Resources) – on 1st February, 2016 – to encourage informed “debate” at the meeting of full Council, on 3rd February, 2016 (about responsible, SUSTAINABLE tree population management) [2].


    (this letter triggered Amey & SCC to publish a back-dated 5yr contract document, on 2nd February 2016: )

    Other SORT communications can be accessed via the following link:

    THE MINUTES OF THE COUNCIL MEETING THAT TOOK PLACE ON 3rd FEBRUARY, 2016 – when the Nether Edge tree action group presented their 6,295 plus signature petition – can be accessed at the following link, under the sub-heading “Minutes of Previous Council Meetings”:

    Questions about trees are on pages 6 & 7 of the PDF. A redacted version of the petition, followed by the Council’s response, can be found on pages 18 to 24.

  12. Technotronic says:

    TONIGHT (25th January 2018):

    Your chance to question Darren Butt (the Amey Operations Director responsible for delivery of all services for the duration of the £2.2 billion 25yr Streets Ahead highway maintenance “project”) – ultimately, the guy responsible for city-wide degradation of highway maintenance and quality of our environment:

    Do not be fooled, Darren Butt is not an arboriculturist – competent or otherwise (see the BS3998 – a standard Amey claim to use and are contractually committed to use). That is why people NEVER get answers in response to their questions to him, but only vague responses that do not address the matters raised.

    If you attend Crosspool Forum, beware that the panel consists of political party bigots that will do all they can to cover Butt’s arse and prevent decision makers and Councillors being held accountable. The primary eejit is the forum Chair – Ian Hague. As a Chair he is utterly incompetent in EVERY way. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. Remember what Cllr Fox was like as self-appointed Chair of the Highway Trees Advisory Forum? Well, Hague is at least three times more incompetent. I’m not kidding.

    For some detail of what happened at the 2015 AGM, see the SORT letter dated 29th January 2016 (v51. Pages: 24-25; 37; 69-70; 168-169; 268- 286):

    The letter was delivered to Cllr Terry Fox (Labour) – SCC Cabinet Member for Environment & Transport – on 29th January 2016. It was also distributed, as a Nether Edge petition hand-out, to EVERY COUNCILLOR IN SHEFFIELD, by SCC’s John Turner (Democratic Services Legal and Governance Resources), prior to the meeting of full council at which the Nether Edge petition was “debated”.

    The SORT letter triggered Amey & SCC to publish a back-dated “COMMERCIALLY SENSITIVE” 5yr contract document*, on 2nd February 2016 – the day before the Nether Edge group presented their petition at full Council. The 5yr document was later presented to, and accepted by, the High Court as a contract document, during the case of R [Dillner] v Sheffield CC and Amey Hallam Highways Ltd.

    The SORT letter a VITALLY IMPORTANT document, as it is evidence that our Councillors had access to reliable, accurate information at a particular time. As they have had YEARS to familiarise themselves with the content, there is NO REASONABLE EXCUSE for continued wrongful acts and omissions (including communications). Please note that ALL MPs and a number of SCC Executives and Officers have also received the SORT communications, including the letter dated 29th January 2016.


    For further comment, see:


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