Ancient Tree in Stocksbridge for the chop as Amey move in to fell

Ancient Tree in Stocksbridge for the chop as Amey move in to fell

Ancient Tree in Stocksbridge for the chop as, despite local protests, Amey move in to fell.

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5 Responses to Ancient Tree in Stocksbridge for the chop as Amey move in to fell

  1. Technotronic says:

    If anybody has any complaints regarding tree work done by Amey on behalf of the council, and wants answers from the people directly responsible, you need to contact Amey via the council’s website: .

    You will be prompted to e-mail or telephone customer services on: (0114) 2734567.

    This is the best way to get answers. Councillors are unfamiliar with the details and at best will just fob you off with general schpeel. They are not knowledgeable or familiar with arboricultural matters. To the best of my knowledge, Sheffield council has not actually formally adopted a specific Tree Strategy. One has been in development for a few years now!

    If you are not happy with the answers you get, then contact your councillor. 😉

    If anybody would like to get a better idea about Amey’s tree work, I recommend you visit the Stocksbridge Community Forum and type in a key word in to the search box (such as “tree” or “Amey”).


    You may find the following document of interest:

    The National Tree Safety Group (2011a) Common Sense Risk Management of Trees: Guidance on trees and public safety in the UK for owners, managers and advisers, Edinburgh: Forestry Commission (Forestry Commission stock code: FCM 024).


    the term “defect” can be misleading, as the significance of structural deformities in
    trees (variations from a perceived norm) can be extremely variable. indeed,
    deformities can be a response to internal hollowing or decay, compensating for loss of wood strength and providing mechanical advantage, allowing the tree to adapt to
    wind and gravitational forces. With inadequate understanding, so-called defects may be erroneously confused with hazards and, furthermore, hazards with risk – so unless the risk of harm arising from a hazard is properly taken account of, management can be seriously misinformed, potentially leading to costly and unnecessary intervention.
    NTSG definition: “a defect in the context of the growing environment of a tree is a structural, health or environmental condition that could predispose a tree to failure”.

    (The National Tree Safety Group, 2011, p. 44)

  2. Technotronic says:

    The following enquiry response has been issued by Amey:

    “The tree to which you refer was found to be infected with Laetiporus sulphurous (LS). Given the tree’s location, within the carriageway, and, therefore, contrary to section 96 of the Highways Act 1980 and also the nature of decay associated with LS, a decision to fell the tree was made.

    However, due to public reaction, and the prominent nature of the tree and its associated amenity value, further investigation has been arranged i.e. Picus tomography. The results of which will enable our Arboriculture Asset Management team to evaluate more accurately the extent of decay and, possibly, offer an alternative management option.”

    Make of that what you will.

    You may find the following document to be of interest:

    Read, H., 2000. Veteran Trees: A guide to good management (IN13). Peterborough: English Nature.


    “Laetiporus sulphureus (Figure 15) break down only the dead wood. This decays the centre of the tree but leaves the outer, living layers intact. While this may not be desirable from the point of view of a commercial forester, the tree is not harmed and may actually benefit. Decay and hollowing are part of a nutrient recycling process.The tree can make use of the products of wood decay within the trunk by producing aerial roots from its above ground parts, which grow into the rotting stem. A hollow tube may respond differently from a solid trunk in high winds and not necessarily more likely to snap provided its walls are not so thin that buckling occurs”.

    (Read, 2000, p. 33)

    • Technotronic says:

      I should, perhaps, mention that when an oak gets as old as the Melbourne Road veteran in Stocksbridge the cross-sectional area of its trunk largely consists of “heartwood” (i.e. it largely consists of dead wood). There may only be a few millimetres or a couple of centimetres of sound, living wood (“sapwood”), surrounding the heartwood. Hence the necessity of a detailed inspection by a competent arboriculturist. This should examine the extent of decay and effect of decay on structural integrity, thus permitting both appropriate evaluation of potential hazard and informed risk assessment.

  3. Technotronic says:

    The local paper reported that the tree was felled this Monday (1st April). The stump has been ground out and nothing more remains. Does anyone have a link to the Picus tomograms that Amey commissioned, or any photographs of the logs or stump? It would be interesting to know the extent of the cavity that was present within the tree.

    Here’s a link to the newspaper article:

  4. Technotronic says:

    With regard to the report from the detailed inspection (performed on 27th January 2014) of the Melbourne Road veteran oak.

    Here are some excerpts from the report:

    “The results of the Tomography indicate that the extent of decay did not breach t/R ratio of 30/70%, the point at which fully-crowned trees become dangerous…”

    “…the following management options were considered:

    A. Removal and replacement if highway safety obligations prevent safe retention in the carriageway.

    B. “Heavy” reduction of the existing crown volume (approx.. 30%) and instigation of a long term heritage tree management strategy with annual inspections. The installation of line markings and/or bollards to highlight tree encroachment and guide traffic.

    Following much determination, option A was considered most appropriate”.

    The recommendation for annual inspection is perhaps a little excessive, given that the tree was apparently healthy; oak is well known to be particularly successful in hindering the spread of microbial infection within its parts; oak is also well known to be successful in compensating for loss of cross-sectional area, through the production of reaction wood (termed “adaptive growth” in the British Standards), which effectively maintains structural integrity (of stem/branch or root), enabling plant parts to have a safety factor greater than that of most mammal bones (Mattheck et al., 1993).

    It would appear that the detailed inspection was only commissioned to create the impression that those responsible (both Amey and the Council) were attempting to do things the right way, after initially taking a decision to remove the tree without a necessary and appropriate hazard assessment and subsequent informed risk assessment. To my mind, what has happened has been an appalling and unacceptable waste of taxpayer’s money. It is a shame that those concerned cannot be issued with some form of proportionate financial penalty.

    Hopefully, lessons will have been learnt from the appalling way in which the whole process was handled. It is unfortunate that the local community will have to suffer the consequences of a decision making process in which they had no part. Such old veteran trees, particularly oak, are extremely rare along our city streets.

    The final decision on the future of the Melbourne Road veteran oak should have been taken by an arboriculturist (as defined within British Standard 3998).

    A copy of the tree report has been sent to Cllr A.Brelsford.


    Mattheck, C., Bethge, K. & Schafer, J (1993) Safety Factors In Trees. Journal of Theoretical Biology, 165, p.185-89.

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